I give up

topic posted Thu, January 27, 2005 - 4:13 PM by  Upside Down ...
I've created more coasters lately than every before, this is pathetic.
posted by:
Upside Down John
Richmond
  • Re: I give up

    Tue, February 1, 2005 - 11:15 AM
    Stay away from poor media... I used to burn a lot of coasters... with some off brand of DVD-Rs... I bought some Ritek ones and haven't burned a coaster yet. Even memorex and those name brands can vary on media quality depending on who they get the media from. As a mac user with a sensitive SuperDrive, I did some research... talked to a bunch of people and found that what has been the most reliable media for a lot of people was Ritek's. I get them for about $.45 a piece for 100 at supermediastore.com... they may be cheaper now. They have a sampler set there, too.. you can try different medias and see which one(s) work best for you.
    • Re: I give up

      Tue, February 1, 2005 - 12:52 PM
      Actually, my issue seemed to be hardware related...here's the deal. I got that new 16X burner for Christmas. I tried to yank the old 4X burner out of there, but I have a Gateway, and for the life of me I can't get the damn thing out of the slot, the way the box is made and the lock mechanism have me blocked. So in the open slot underneath it I installed the 16X, setting both burners for cable select. I figured if I had to have two drives in there, I would read from one and burn with the other. At first, things were fine, but then the strangest things started happening, both drives would disappear from my file management windows and not even be listed. Then the coasters started.

      So I have reverted back to the original setup, just the 4X set at cable select by itself, then I defragged and reinstalled DVD Shrink. I've burned four discs in the last two days (Friday Night Lights, The Wire Season 2 Disc 1, Flesh for Frankenstein and Simpsons Season 5 Disc 1) and all 4 seem kosher. I don't buy off brand media, but even good media was causing problems in the setup with both drives. What really sucks is when I tried to just have the 16X as the standalone instead of the 4X, it made coasters. Could just be that drive is screwy, but I have a funny feeling it could be BIOS related or something. The system picks the drive up initially and allocates it a drive letter, but then it gets screwy after a little while. Could be a bad drive, but if it was, the damn thing shouldn't be able to read, and it reads fine. Strange.
      • Re: I give up

        Wed, February 2, 2005 - 7:52 AM
        I had a problem with my burner becoming invisible to the software after I installed Roxio without uninstalling the software that came with my HP. But if your drives were invisible in the Windows Explorer view at some point then it sounds like something else was wrong. What OS are you running? Have you tried to contact the drive manufacturer and see what they have to say about the problem? Other than that, driver and software updates are about the only thing I know to try, but you've done those already.
        • Re: I give up

          Wed, February 2, 2005 - 9:51 AM
          Yeah, a strange problem, I could see if I had the pins set incorrectly on the back of each drive, but they were both cable select, which I'm fairly certain is a setup that XP (which I'm running) can handle. The newer 16X is a LiteOn drive, which is the same company who mass producers these things for Gateway and Dell. For now, things appear to be working correctly again, but who knows how long it will last!
          • Re: I give up

            Thu, February 3, 2005 - 3:32 PM
            Sometimes it's a flaky BIOS that'll cause the problem sporadically with cable select... I like to define master and slave.. so I always know what I'm going to get with the stupid BIOS.
  • Re: I give up

    Mon, February 7, 2005 - 10:07 AM
    Now I REALLY give up. Tried again to copy a flick, about 20 minuties into, there's a hiccup. So I think damn, damn, damn. But then on a whim I pop into my PS2, and forward to the same spot...no hiccup. I pop it back into my computer and forward to the same spot using WinDVD. No hiccup. WTF?!?!? The player I'm using is a good Sony, less than a year old that has never given me trouble, and it plays ANY original DVD with no problems. I tried adjusting the video settings but the hiccup still occurs at the same spot.

    So...what the hell are you people using? I've been using DVD Shrink 3.2 and I've even reinstalled Nero from disc and all that jazz. Still getting discs that don't play without hiccups in my newer player. I do have the service plan from Best Buy on that newer player, should I take it back to them and tell them it's not working satisfactorily? I know I've been bitching and moaning about this for a while, but I'm at my wit's end.
    • Re: I give up

      Tue, February 8, 2005 - 7:18 PM
      I'd say that Sony is the problem, not DVD Shrink. See if you can try it in a Toshiba, Panasonic, Pioneer or Philips.
  • Re: I give up

    Thu, February 10, 2005 - 1:58 PM
    I THINK I have some of my problems solved, but I'm not sure. What I've started doing is using DVD Decrypter to rip the entire disc onto my hard drive instead of doing the encoding on the fly from the disc to the hard drive using DVD Shrink. Instead, once it's ripped onto the hard drive, I fire up DVD Shrink and do the encoding there, create an ISO, and then burn the ISO to disc using DVD Decrypter. I was previously doing the whole shooting match using DVD Shrink. So far, 2 of 3 copies I've made worked fine on my Sony player, and I'm not going to get too depressed over the one that didn't work, maybe it was a rare instance. If I start making more bad copies this way, though, I might just give up for good.

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