My last DVD/RW (+/-) drive (NEC ND-2500A) went belly up recently. I replaced it with a new LiteOn burner (SHM-165H6S, if it matters). Ever since then, DVD Shrink has been extremely problematic. It either craps out while doing the initial disk scan (yielding a Cyclic Redundancy Error), OR it lets me finish that step but when I click Backup, it momentarily hangs, then automatically dies (the process just disappears, no error message).
ANY problems that I had received under the old drive were always attributable to a bad (scratched or cracked) source disk. Now I am lucky if I can back up 1 out of 4 disks that I try. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program, uninstalling and reinstalling the drive, temporarily downgrading the driver, flashing the drive's firmware, etc.
I've never used any other software as DVD Shrink has always met my needs perfectly. I would love to hear a) recommendations on getting operational with DVD Shrink again, b) any similar tales of woe, c) any suggestions on an alternate piece of software to try (ideally one that lets me pick and choose compression ratios for special features, reauthor, etc.
help?
ANY problems that I had received under the old drive were always attributable to a bad (scratched or cracked) source disk. Now I am lucky if I can back up 1 out of 4 disks that I try. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program, uninstalling and reinstalling the drive, temporarily downgrading the driver, flashing the drive's firmware, etc.
I've never used any other software as DVD Shrink has always met my needs perfectly. I would love to hear a) recommendations on getting operational with DVD Shrink again, b) any similar tales of woe, c) any suggestions on an alternate piece of software to try (ideally one that lets me pick and choose compression ratios for special features, reauthor, etc.
help?
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 3:56 AMok Since DVD Shrink is the ONLY software you've been using it is more than likely a form of protection that Shrink doesn't recognize and isn't able to remove.. Shrink is no longer updated so any new movies will result in problems because of copy protection...
Try running ANYDVD in the background while using DVD Shrink and that should solve the problem...
Anydvd is a driver that runs in the background that removes the copy protection as it's being anylzed and shrunk..
You can find the 21 Day Trial Here www.slysoft.com/en/
The Free way of backing up DVD's with no problem would be ripping the files to the Hard Drive 1st and then opening them with shrink... in order to do this you need a prog to remove the protection..
DVD FAB DECRYPTER will do that for you...
www.dvdidle.com/free.htm
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 4:04 AM
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:16 AMthanks for the information, I look forward to trying this software when I get home tonight
however
>Shrink is no longer updated so any new movies will result in problems because of copy protection...
the program is failing with a wide variety of discs, new and old, major studio and indie.
I recall stumbling upon a directory of temp files for DVD Shrink, but I cannot remember the location on disk, and I don't know what file/folder names to search for. All I know is that those files were not under c:\program files\dvd shrink nor were they under c:\documents and settings\[myname]\local settings\application data. I would like to find that location again and wipe out those files as part of my uninstall/reinstall process. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:53 AMIf you're still having a problem after the uninstall / reinstall of shrink. You could try NERO Recode which is a part of NERO Burning Rom you may just need to d/l Nero Recode for it if you have Nero....
It's by the makers of DVD Shrink but alot better....
ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/nero7-up.php
or Slysoft the makers of Anydvd also make a encoding (Shrinking) program called Clone DVD www.slysoft.com/en/
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Thu, May 18, 2006 - 12:33 PMI am actually playing around with DVDFab Express (30 day free trial) and am so far, quite impressed. It handled a Sony disc with no problems and is just one step rather than two or three. I will probably purchase it when my trial period is up. And I just got a new Lite On 16x that I am waiting to install until all my Ridata Ritek discs are used. It didin't like them so you might try checking compatible media in your documentation. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Thu, May 18, 2006 - 12:46 PM> ... waiting to install until all my Ridata Ritek discs are used. It didin't like them
> so you might try checking compatible media in your documentation.
So far, I have had no issues whatsoever with burning. Once I've got my .VOB files on disc, I am golden. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Thu, May 18, 2006 - 7:57 PMYeah if it's a media issue it could need a firmware update -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Thu, May 18, 2006 - 8:14 PMI don't like Dvd Fab Express because I like to know what the compression rate is ....as far as I remember it doesn't tell you the compression rate or let you choose what to compress at what rate.. Like DVD Shrink or Nero Recode 2 do....
All you can choose is Complete Disc or Movie only.. No info on the compression rate and depending on what the compression is , it doesn't always come out as good as it could with other programs...
DVD FAB Decrypter (the Free RIPPER only ver) works great.... A combo of DVD Fab Decrypter and DVD Shrink is the Best FREE way to go....www.dvdidle.com/free.htm
now if you want a one click program I'd go with a combo of ANYDVD & CLONEDVD 2
www.slysoft.com/en/
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 8:25 AMAlthough sometimes with that combo I find you need VobBlanker for some of the Sony discs. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 9:10 AMWell Vob Blanker is also free and most of the time I use it to remove Ads and Trailers FBI Warnings Etc..
use Menushrink if the menu isn't animated and I use MenuEdit (free way is using PGCedit) to disable some of the menu functions (to trailers or stuff I've deleted) -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 9:28 AMI'm still surpremely pissed that I can't use DVD Shrink. I tested it under another login/profile on my machine to rule out some flukey application settings problem. I removed it for the dozenth time and installed a slightly older version, that failed in just the same way. Now I am going to try to rule out the OS itself by swapping in a spare hard drive with a clean load of XP.
AnyDVD is installed but makes no difference.
DVD FAB Express gave me 6gb worth of ripped data...
VOB Blanker confuses the shit outta me
and I coastered the first disc that I tried using those two products.
I haven't yet tried Nero Recode or CloneDVD. It's extremely important to me that I maintain control over compression ratios - I do NOT want a "one click solution". Does Recode offer me this? -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 9:29 AMfor what it's worth, I'm now ripping them successfully on an ANCIENT Win2k desktop here at work. DVD Shrink is running just like it's supposed to, but the processor is so damned slow it literally takes all day. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 10:34 AMYes with Nero recode you can set the Compression ratio's just like Shrink...
Since DVD Fab Ripped the Files to your Hard Drive.. What happens when you try and open the FILES in Dvd Shrink? Does it do the same thing?
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 10:52 AM> Since DVD Fab Ripped the Files to your Hard Drive.. What happens when you try and
> open the FILES in Dvd Shrink? Does it do the same thing?
I'm headed home @ lunchtime, I will try it then... but why, exactly? Once I've got it ripped, I would either need to generate an ISO file (something I used the ImgTool application for) that I could then burn, OR burn them directly to disc (something supported by the new version of ImgTool). Does DVD Fab only rip the disk in an uncompressed state, then I would use DVD Shrink to reprocess those files so I can get everything down below 4.7GB? Sounds like an annoying extra step...
Thanks to everyone for listening to my bellyaching. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 10:56 AMyes it only rips to the hd with no compression -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 11:00 AMWhat movies or DVD's are you having problems with as of late...
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 11:03 AMBadlands
Mad Hot Ballroom
The Man with the Screaming Brain
Blue Velvet
The 40 Year Old Virgin
Bringing Out the Dead
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 11:11 AMI would try and compress the files on your HD that DVD Fab Created with DVD Shrink... If that works than more than likely it's a form of compression that Shrink can't handle... It's an extra step but what ever works
Do you do the WHOLE DVD or just the Main Movie?
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 11:30 AMInitially, DVD Shrink had reported that the main movie for Mad Hot Ballroom would be 70% compressed without removing the special features. I thought this would be reasonable. So when I processed it with DVD Fab Express, I allowed it to do the whole movie.
In general, I strip out any previews and overly-long Making Of featurettes, then compress the hell out of deleted scenes. I really want to maintain this level of control. I don't want Howl's Moving Castle to look like crap just because I couldn't remove the 45 minutes of John Lasseter showering Miyazaki-san with praise. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 11:44 AMfor a movie like that I'd Rip to Hard Drive with DVD FAB Decrypter
Remove anything I didn't want with Vob Blanker (This thread on Afterdawn.com should help a little understand Vob Blanker)
forums.afterdawn.com/thread_...m/282892
and the Shrink & Burn with Nero Recode 2
I did a When a Stranger Calls the other day just this way...it would've been like 68% for the main movie if I didn't Vob Blank out some stuff,..
I removed the FBI Warnings , Studio Intro/Outro Screens & Trailers/Previews with Vob Blanker
and it went from 68% to 82%
typically with Movies I check to see what the compression would be without me removing anything 1st and if it's 80% or higher from the get go in CLONE DVD 2 I'll just use ANYDVD + CloneDvd 2 and do the movie
anything lower I'll remove stuff with Vob Blanker 1st and then use Recode 2
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 11:51 AMHere is another Vob Blanker Guide...
www.dvdr-digest.com/articles...age1.html
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 3:40 AMHey all,
Excuse the ignorance but somewhat new to dvd burning. I've come across a couple different problems that maybe someone could shed a little light on.
My beloved dvd shrink worked perfectly to get me going a few months back. Some of the newer discs of course would run into copy protections. I went with dvdfab platinum to handle the problem cases. However, ever since upgrading the fab platinum to ver. 3, I can no longer get my shrink to work right. Just about every disc I try, old or new, refuses to open. It has also rendered older versions of dvdfab gold mode completely useless. It wouldn't be such a problem except for dvdfab 3.x having a mid-range sucess rate for me. Particularly the customized disc mode can be a little hit or miss.
I also have a sony laptop running shrink as well as a 2.9x version of dvdfab gold version. Same setup I had previously on my desktop. Everything works well just as it did before. The sony does a decent enough job but for some reason the discs I burn aren't compatible with some players out there. They load just fine on my $50 phillips but other players don't seem to recognize them. It's a little annoying (and embarassing) to hand my sister a dvd and hear all about how it didn't load on here player.
I've tried the usual...uninstalling dvdfab, dvdshrink and nero as well. Did my best to cleanout the registry and get rid of whatever remnants I came across. Went back to the old config but the problems persists. If possible I would like to get my puter operational again. I'm sure I wouldn't have any clue which dlls might be lingering about and causing problems. I'm also pretty fresh off a reformat and not looking forward to that 2 hour chore again.
Any insight would be appreciated -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:55 AMCould be the media you're using .. if you're using DVD+R Media you may need to Booktype the media to DVD-ROM when burning to make it compatible with the majority of players out there...
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 10:56 PMDave>>
I have had a similar thing strike me recently. In my case it all started with what seemed like a hardware problem - my DVDRW started acting wonky with DVDs (but perfectly fine with data, audio, CD-R, CD-RW, whatever). I ended up throwing a "test" hard drive in my system, with a separate installation of WinXP, and go figure, the damned thing works. I've tried removing the device and every device driver associated with it, removing/reinstalling every installation of DVD Shrink, dissecting the registry, etc,etc. I've continually postponed the OS Rebuild by hooking the other hard drive up when I want to rip a few DVDs. It's lame, and a hassle, but I am not motivated enough to wipe things out and start from scratch.
Kinda hoping another version of DVD Shrink comes along. I install it, it magically works, etc.
typing all that out puts it in perspective - I've been really lazy about fixing this.... time to redouble my efforts -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 3:02 AMSame hope I've been holding out for. I have a feeling that some system dlls were replaced with the fab installation but I'm not in the mood to try and track em all down. I know once I put fab 3 on, my nero burning engine seemed to take a crap. I could write dvd data discs but couldn't use it for either shrink or dvdfab. Reminds me of my undergrad days of ripping to divx 4. Remember that....rip / encode to avi / audio synch / ect ect.... must have tried out hundredes of apps that promised to speed that 4 hour process along. I think I averaged a reformat bi-monthly back then.
As far as the compatibility with the sony....there really aren't a whole lot of options. I'm pretty sure I tried the few available. It's a dual layer dual format but I mostly stick with the 4.7 dvd-r. Actually, I usually stick with whatever bestbuy is giving away cheap when I happen to head over there. I know, I know, I'm a stingy bastard.
It seems that newer model players pick up the discs so maybe it'll sort itself out over time. Was just curious if anyone new if it was a sony specific thing. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 7:07 AMWhy not try Nero Recode since you're using Nero...
DVD Shrink is out dated and will never be upgraded again..
Nero Recode is written by the creator of DVD Shrink
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 8:43 AMI am so god damned stupid - sharing my "similar experience" when I was the one that actually started this thread.
FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS DRINK AND TRIBE
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 10:44 AMis it just giving you problems with this one DVD or All Dvd's now? Cyclic Redundancy Error usually means Dirty ,or Badly Scratched Damaged or bad pressed DVD.. DVD Fab Decrypter does well at ripping some discs like that to the HD and then use Shrink or Recode for compression but if it's a BADLY PRESSED Disc then it could just be a flaw from the manufacture that your burner is having issues with....
and since you have installed a Newer Burner it could be the firmware of the burner that needs updating....
HS07 is the latest Firmware for your burner.. You may want to upgrade it (never know how long that burners been on the shelf with older firmware) forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 10:54 AMThe Cyclic Redundancy Error was WAYY too common to actually be a bad disc - in fact, I had gone on to successfully rip them on the other [functional but slow] PC.
It's much more common to experience this problem:
1) I successfully index/preview the disc
2) I make the changes to compression, I eliminate certain specials features
3) I click Backup. DVD Shrink hangs for about 6 seconds, then closes with no error message whatsoever. -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Sun, February 18, 2007 - 8:24 AMI am also having trouble with dvd shrink! I downloaded every episode of Dragonball z recently and I convert to dvd files with WinAVI and then I open with dvd shrink to burn these files. When i encode it usually gets around 90% and then it disappears!! Any thoughts??? -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Sat, February 24, 2007 - 11:15 AMIf you're downloading episodes I would just use Nero to encode and burn. DVD shrink no longer works on most recent dvd's because of the new sony Arccos encryption.
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Fri, March 16, 2007 - 8:29 AMyeah but can you watch this in a dvd player?? -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Fri, March 16, 2007 - 9:12 AMRip the files from the dvd to your Hard Drive using either
RIPIT4ME
www.ripit4me.org/
OR
DVD Fab Decrypter
www.dvdidle.com/free.htm
And then use DVD Shrink or Nero Recode -
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Re: DVD Shrink frustration
Wed, April 25, 2007 - 4:09 PMMy dvd player recognizes AVI files and such. So yes.
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